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Mensaje por Charlie319 Jue Ago 16, 2012 3:12 pm

Este tema es para los incidentes de balaceras como la del cinee de Colorado o la de Arizona en la que resulto herida Babrielle Giffords... Dado al momento en que se inicia este foro, invito a cualqueir liberal a que traiga esos incidentes, pero comenzaremos con el mas reciente que es el atentado de balear las oficinas de un grupo conservador en Washington. Resulta que el presunto agresor era gay... Y progresivo... Este cabestro es un desastre de tal magnitud que el que lo desarmo fue el guardia a quien el ya le habia dado un tiro... Que clase de fracasado...

http://www.nytimes.com/aponline/2012/08/16/us/politics/ap-us-security-guard-shot.html?ref=aponline

Man Charged in Shooting at Conservative Group HQ
By THE ASSOCIATED PRESS

WASHINGTON (AP) — A man charged with shooting a security guard at a conservative lobbying group in Washington has appeared in court.

Twenty-eight-year-old Floyd Lee Corkins was wearing a white prison jumpsuit and showed no visible emotions or reactions at federal court Thursday.

When the judge asked if he could afford a private attorney, Corkins responded that he only had $300 to his name. The judge assigned a public defender.

Corkins is charged with assault with intent to kill and bringing firearms across state lines.

He was ordered to be held without bond and a detention hearing was scheduled for next Friday. Prosecutors also asked for a mental evaluation.

Authorities say he walked into the Family Research Council office on Wednesday and criticized its politics before shooting and wounding the security guard. The guard is recovering.




http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/08/16/us-usa-shooting-washington-idUSBRE87E0VG20120816

Suspect in Washington shooting expressed political grudge
1:29pm EDT
By Ian Simpson

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - The man charged in a shooting at a conservative Christian lobbying group in downtown Washington told a guard "I don't like your politics" before wounding him, according to court documents filed on Thursday.

Floyd Lee Corkins II, 28, of Herndon, Virginia, also was carrying 15 sandwiches from Chick-fil-A, a fast-food chain, in the Wednesday shooting at the Family Research Council, a criminal complaint said.

The Family Research Council strongly opposes same-sex marriage and abortion, and Corkins had worked as a volunteer at a Washington center for homosexuals, bisexuals and transgender people. Chick-fil-A's president has publicly opposed same-sex marriage.

Corkins' parents told FBI agents that Corkins "has strong opinions with respect to those he believes do not treat homosexuals in a fair manner," the complaint said.

Corkins faces a District of Columbia charge of assault with intent to kill while armed. He also is charged with interstate transportation of a firearm and ammunition.

He will make an initial appearance in U.S. District Court on Thursday afternoon, the U.S. Attorney's office said.

The complaint said Corkins entered the offices of the Family Research Council and was stopped at the door by a security guard, according to the complaint.

A witness told FBI agents that Corkins "stated words to the effect of, 'I don't like your politics,'" the complaint said.

Surveillance camera footage showed that Corkins then pulled a Sig Sauer 9mm pistol from a backpack and shot the guard in the arm. The wounded guard wrestled the gun from Corkins and subdued him. A second guard called 911, the complaint said.

Investigators recovered two more loaded magazines at the scene. They found another 50 rounds of ammunition and the Chick-fil-A sandwiches in Corkins' backpack.

The complaint said that Corkins lived with his parents. He had left their car at a Virginia subway station before the attack.

Corkins faces up to 10 years in prison for the federal weapons charge and up to 30 years for the District of Columbia offense. The District of Columbia charge carries a mandatory minimum sentence of five years.



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Tiroteos de locos y las leyes de armas... Empty Ahora resulta que el agresor del Family Research Council es afro-americano

Mensaje por Charlie319 Vie Ago 17, 2012 9:03 am

Resulta que el atacante del FRC no solo laboraba en una organizacion pro-GLBT, sino que es de tez morena. Algo asi como Obama y Valerie Jarret que son afro-americanos nominales o autodenominados pues, al menos en el caso de Obama, su formacion fue con sus abuelos blancos.
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Tiroteos de locos y las leyes de armas... Empty 20 muertos en tiroteo en Conneticut

Mensaje por Boriquesazo Vie Dic 14, 2012 3:46 pm

Más de 20 muertos durante tiroteo en escuela elemental de Connecticut

Entre las víctimas hay varios menores. Pistolero tenía 24 años y portaba entre dos y cuatro armas de fuego.

Por ELNUEVODIA.COM

Unas 27 personas, entre ellos 18 menores, murieron esta mañana durante una balacera en la escuela elemental Sandy Hook en Newtown, Connecticut, informó en un alerta The Associated Press.

Se confirmó que el pistolero, quien tenía 24 años, fue hallado muerto en uno de los salones del plantel, tenía entre dos a cuatro armas, según ABC News. Estaba vestido de negro y tenía un chaleco antibalas y se desconoce si se suicidó o fue abatido por la Policía. Otra persona fue detenida en un bosque aledaño. Vestía camisa negra y pantalón de camuflaje.

Además, se informó que el director del plantel y un psicólogo están entre las víctimas fatales. Varios heridos de gravedad fueron transportados a hospitales de la zona. En la escena se encuentran múltiples ambulancias, patrullas, perros policías y SWAT.

Decenas de padres han llegado hasta el área para buscar a sus hijos. Una enfermera llegó y dijo, según relató a los medios, que era la peor escena que había visto. Muchos de los padres recibieron la noticia que sus hijos habían fallecido. “Fue una escena desgarradora, dolorosa, indescriptible”, manifestó.

Los menores fueron desalojados de la escuela a eso de las 9:40 am de la mañana en medio de llantos y gritos.

La Policía bloqueó las calles y escuelas como medida preventiva para garantizar la seguridad de los estudiantes y el personal. El FBI y Servicio Secreto formarán parte de la investigación.

Dramático relato de estudiantes

Una niña de tercer grado narró la horrible experiencia durante el tiroteo.

“Había mucha gente, vimos a los policías y los escuchamos que estaban en el techo del edificio. Vimos a los policías corriendo para buscar a los que dispararon”, narró la menor.

“No puedo creer que esto ocurra en un pueblo pequeño como este”, dijo el padre de la niña.

Otro niño narró que estaba en el gimnasio cuando escuchó los disparos. “Entró la policía para preguntar si habíamos visto a alguien extraño. Pidió que nos ocultáramos en el armario del gimnasio hasta que llegó la policía y nos sacó”.

Por su parte, una madre de otra estudiante relató que su hija le contó que se escucharon varias detonaciones desde el pasillo y que el director de la escuela, el subdirector y el psicólogo salieron a verificar. De ellos, solo regresó el subdirector arrastrándose por el pasillo porque había sido herido en una pierna.

Medidas de seguridad en el plantel

Según ABC News, en 2010, el director de la escuela implementó un sistema de seguridad en el que las puertas permanecerían cerradas durante el día. Toda persona debía solicitar autorización para entrar a la escuela. Se desconoce el motivo por el que se tomó la decisión de incrementar las medidas de seguridad en esa ocasión.

La escuela elemental tiene una matrícula de 600 estudiantes.

Dios mío! Que fuerte. Mis pésames a las víctimas y a sus familiares.


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Mensaje por Charlie319 Sáb Dic 15, 2012 6:58 pm

Ayer ocurrio una verdadera desgracia en el pueblito de Newton Conneticut. Un muchacho de clase media cometio la locura de asesinar a mas de una veintena de personas entere los cuales estan 20 estudiantes.


Tiroteos de locos y las leyes de armas... Lanza

En seguida se alzaron voces, incluyendo la del presidente para limitar la venta de armas y limitar el alcance de la segunda enmienda. Otros para que le limite aun mas el acceso a las escuelas... Estas dos ideas son erroneas. Aqui, al igual que en Von Maur Colorado, Arizona y Columbine, el asesino tenia problemas mentales (por no decir que estaban desquiciados/locos). MAs bien lo que se necesita es identificar a estas personas y limitarles el acceso a armas y otros medios de agresion o destruccion.
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Mensaje por Charlie319 Sáb Dic 15, 2012 7:17 pm

Es una desgracia, pero el tipo no estaba bien de la mente... Mato a su madre antes de ir a la escuela.
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Mensaje por Charlie319 Lun Dic 17, 2012 1:28 am

El tipo obviamente estaba mal de la cabeza...

Esta es una buena entrevista sobre lo que representa el matar a una persona y por que lo vemos pasar mas todavia.


No dejas que tus hijos vean pornografia porque sus morales se verian afectadas y perderian perspectiva del valor moral de el acto sexual. Sin embargo, permitimos que vean carnicerias en las peliculas semanalmente y en juegos de video en casa...

Antes teniamos armas en todos lados, y esto no pasaba... Desde que llegaron als consolas y los juegos de "First Person Shooter" esto ha proliferado. Ven la conexion?
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Mensaje por Charlie319 Lun Dic 17, 2012 10:30 am

Les dije que el tipo estaba mal de la mente y las noticias lo confirman:

Diagnosing Adam Lanza
By Gabriella Rosen Kellerman
inShare4Dec 16 2012, 9:34 AM ET

Understanding the psychiatric discussion thus far

In the aftermath of the Sandy Hook massacre, reports have surfaced that shooter Adam Lanza suffered from some sort of mental disability or disorder, the exact nature of which is thus far a matter of dispute. Neighbors have described Lanza as odd, remote, and reclusive ; schoolmates recall him as a brainiac, with a flat affect; and a longtime family friend reveals that Adam lacked the ability to feel pain. His brother, Ryan Lanza, told ABC news that Adam "is autistic, or has Asperger syndrome and a 'personality disorder.'" Police authorities, meanwhile, have alluded to the shooter's "checkered past," calling him a "troubled youth."

Greater diagnostic clarity on this matter will emerge within the next few weeks as friends and doctors who knew Adam Lanza come forward to aid law enforcement in their investigation. Until it does, it may help to understand some of the diagnoses in question:

Autism: Autism is a disorder characterized by difficulty with social interaction and communication, as well as repetitive and restrictive behaviors and interests. It is currently estimated to affect 1 in 88 children born in America. Diagnosis is usually made between ages 2 and 6. While children with severe autism can have violent outbursts, there is no known link between autism and premeditated violence.

Asperger's: Asperger's is considered a type of autism (though there will be a change in nomenclature in 2013). In this disorder, individuals have difficulty with social interaction and demonstrate repetitive and restrictive behaviors, but have no difficulty with communication. People with Asperger's may lack interest in sharing experiences with others, or developing relationships.

Personality Disorder: This refers to a category of psychiatric diagnoses, each related to a lifelong pattern of maladaptive behaviors. In the words of the DSM-IV, psychiatry's diagnostic manual, "a personality disorder is an enduring pattern of inner experience and behavior that deviates markedly from the expectations of the individual's culture." Some of the personality disorders that may be examined in Adam's case include:

- Antisocial Personality Disorder: The DSM-IV's closest analog to psychopathy. People with ASPD tend to be aggressive, remorseless, and deceitful, and lack empathy. Violence - premeditated and otherwise - is strongly associated with this category.

- Schizoid Personality Disorder: These individuals avoid social intimacy, have little interest in relationships, and have limited emotional range - often manifest as blunted affect. It is not the same as schizophrenia, although there is a familial association between the two. There is also a familial association between schizophrenia and insensitivity to pain.

- Avoidant Personality Disorder: These individuals are socially inhibited, feel inadequate, avoid social interaction, and are hypersensitive to criticism.

The combination of a flat affect, analgesia, social avoidance, autism-like features, and premeditated violence defies obvious categorization. Like so many out there with unknowable illnesses, Lanza may have had a case of the NOS, or "not otherwise specified," psychiatric shorthand for an undiagnosable illness. Undiagnosable, however, is not tantamount to untreatable -- which, ultimately, is why any of this diagnostic speculation even matters. The hope is that Lanza's doctors and treatment records can help shed light on what might have gone wrong, and what we can do to prevent future massacres.


Connecticut school shooting: troubled life of Adam Lanza, a fiercely intelligent killer
Adam Lanza was reclusive, painfully shy and intensely bright. He also lived in a house full of guns.

Harriet Alexander, David Barrett, Laura Donnelly and Jon Swaine in Newtown
7:36PM GMT 15 Dec 2012
Set on the brow of a gently sloping hill, surrounded by two acres of woodland and well-tended lawns, the spacious property looked like any American family's dream home.

A wide veranda had views across the gardens. A swimming pool, flanked by a white pool house, was round the back of the two-storey building.

Yet behind the front door in the affluent Connecticut community of Newtown, all was not well at 36 Yogananda Street.

Three years previously, in 2009, Nancy and Peter Lanza had divorced after 28 years of marriage. The break up was traumatic, leaving the couple's sons devastated. Ryan Lanza was living away at university, meaning that his brother Adam, four years younger, was left at home alone with their mother at their £350,000 house.

He was not well known to neighbours, who describe him as being reclusive and troubled.

And when the news broke on Friday of the murder of 26 people at a primary school in the town, and Ryan Lanza was hastily identified as the killer, people who knew the family knew they had named the wrong brother.

"Adam Lanza has been a weird kid since we were five years old," said Tim Dalton, a neighbour and former classmate, on Twitter. "As horrible as this was, I can't say I am surprised."

"This was a deeply disturbed kid," a family insider said. "He certainly had major issues. He was subject to outbursts from what I recall."

A further family friend said he had acted as though he was immune to pain.

"A few years ago when he was on the baseball team, everyone had to be careful that he didn't fall because he could get hurt and not feel it," said the friend. "Adam had a lot of mental problems."

Lanza's brother Ryan reportedly told police that his sibling had autism or Asperger's syndrome, and a personality disorder.

He gave no details, but anti-social disorder - also known as sociopathy - is the type most closely linked with violence and criminal behaviour.

Studies have suggested that 50 per cent of the prison population meet the criteria for the diagnosis.

Those with such disorders are more likely to embark on impulsive, risk-seeking behaviour, in an attempt to escape feeling empty or emotionally void.

In such cases, they are likely to have little regard for the consequences of their actions, and are unlikely to experience fear.

Ryan also said that he had not seen him since 2010.

As the news was breaking, Ryan was at work in accountancy firm Ernst and Young, sitting at his desk in Times Square.

To his horror, the 24-year-old found that his name was flashing up on the television news networks, wrongly accused of the massacre. He fled the office, jumping on a bus to return home to the house he shared in New Jersey. Shaken, he told his neighbour in an online message that he thought his mother was dead and he knew who was responsible for the multiple murder.

"It was my brother," he said.

Those on the autistic spectrum have a more limited emotional range and can miss social cues, making it more difficult for them to communicate and feel empathy with others. Difficulties communicating can cause frustration, which can spill over into aggression.

Several studies have found that violence and criminal behaviour are no more common in those diagnosed with autism than they are in the general population.

Asperger's syndrome is a type of autism which is more commonly diagnosed in those with higher than average intelligence.

And Lanza was said by classmates to be fiercely intelligent.

"You could tell he was, I would say, a genius," said Miss Israel. "There was something that was above the rest of us."

He'd correct people's Latin homework, when they were aged around 14, and at 16 was among the list of top students in his English class, studying "Of Mice and Men" and "Catcher In The Rye" - the classic tale of troubled youth.

"It was almost painful to have a conversation with him, because he felt so uncomfortable," said Olivia DeVivo, who sat behind him in English. "I spent so much time in my English class wondering what he was thinking."

"He didn't have any friends, but he was a nice kid if you got to know him," said Kyle Kromberg, now studying business administration at Endicott College in Massachusetts. He studied Latin with Lanza.

"He didn't fit in with the other kids," he said. "He was very, very shy. He wouldn't look you in the eyes when he talked. He didn't really want to lock eyes with you for very long."

He was also a technical whizz kid, keen on computers and video games, and part of a group who would meet up for computer programming get-togethers.

"My brother has always been a nerd," Ryan said, according to Gloria Milas, whose son was a club member along with Adam Lanza.

Catherine Urso, who was attending a vigil on Friday evening in Newtown, said her college-age son knew the killer and remembered him for his alternative style.

"He just said he was very thin, very remote and was one of the goths," she said.

The siblings certainly carved out different paths in life.

Ryan went to university; followed his father into finance; was living with friends in an attractive red-brick property in New Jersey. Indeed, when the tragedy of Friday was unfolding, one of his housemates, Jessica O'Brien, wrote on Facebook: "Do you need anything ready for when you get home? Can I set anything out for you to grab and go? Anything else I can do?"

By contrast, Adam Lanza had few friends and, as a child, went to great trouble not to mix with his fellow students at his state school. A Newtown resident also suggested he was home-schooled for some time.

"I always saw him walking alone, sitting on his own at a table or on the bus. Most of the time I saw him he was alone," said Alex Israel, who was at school with him as a young girl.

"He was really quiet. A little fidgety, uneasy. I think socially he was just going out (into the world) and not making friends with everyone."

Her mother Beth Israel, who lived nearby, said: "I know he had issues. He was a really troubled kid ... a very quiet kid, a shy kid, maybe socially awkward." He was not on Facebook, unusually for any Westerner of his generation, and did not appear in his 2010 High School Yearbook. Instead were written the words: "Camera shy".

Forty miles away from Newtown, in the well-heeled Connecticut city of Stamford, Lanza's father Peter – who was divorced from the boys' mother Nancy – was returning home on Friday afternoon. A highly-qualified academic who a year ago was appointed vice president of taxes for energy investment firm GE Energy Financial Services, Mr Lanza wound down the window on his blue Mini Cooper and asked the person outside his home how he could help her.

"I explained that I'd been told someone at his address had been linked to the shootings in Newtown," said Maggie Gordon, a reporter from the local newspaper.

"His expression twisted from patient, to surprise, to horror."

Mr Lanza had moved out in 2009, remarrying a University of Connecticut librarian in January 2011. He was said to have last seen his son Adam in June. But the painfully shy young man had taken the divorce badly.

"The kids seemed really depressed" by the break-up, said Ryan Kraft, 25, who stayed with Adam when Mrs Lanza went out.

"He would have tantrums," Mr Kraft said. "They were much more than the average kid [had]."

Mr Lanza's lawyer Gary Oberst said: "He was very upset that he was getting divorced, but he didn't want to take it out on anybody.

"He did more than he had to with the divorce. When he came in to consult with me, I said 'This is what your obligation is.' And he said: 'That's not enough. I want to do more.'"

Mr Lanza agreed to pay $240,000 (£148,400) annually to his ex-wife, and Mrs Lanza appeared to live in comfort with Adam. There was also suggestions that she was unable to work.

"She needed to be home with Adam," one family insider said.

Marsha Lanza, aunt to the boys, described Mrs Lanza as a good mother and kind-hearted. Mrs Lanza would host games of dice, or else venture out to visit her neighbours for a glass of wine. The home was immaculate; the swimming pool behind the house well maintained.

But Mrs Lanza was also, according to friends, an avid gun collector.

Dan Holmes, owner of a Connecticut landscaping firm, said Mrs Lanza once showed him a "high-end rifle" that she had purchased, adding, "She said she would often go target shooting with her kids".

The gun used to shoot Mrs Lanza was her own.

Yet, perhaps predictably, the owner of the local rifle range was defiant.

Richard Dravis, who gives shooting training at Wooster Mountain rifle range, 15 miles away from the school, said: "We don't train crazy people. I think that if we would address the mental health issue here we could possibly do something in the future. But we can't count the number of rounds in the magazine of a nut head."

His grandmother was too distraught to speak when reached by phone at her home in Florida, Associated Press reported.

"I just don't know, and I can't make a comment right now," Dorothy Hanson, 78, said in a shaky voice as she started to cry.
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Tiroteos de locos y las leyes de armas... Gunban
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Mensaje por Charlie319 Jue Dic 20, 2012 2:18 pm

Es interesante como es que los medios y politicos se han lanzado sobre el tema de control de armas tras la tragedia de la semana pasada como si eso fuere a resolver el problema... Aqui vemos a un escritor abordando el "problema"...

The solution to gun violence is clear

By Fareed Zakaria, Dec 20, 2012 12:32 AM EST

The Washington Post Published: December 19
Announcing Wednesday that he would send proposals on reducing gun violence in America to Congress, President Obama mentioned a number of sensible gun-control measures. But he also paid homage to the Washington conventional wisdom about the many and varied causes of this calamity — from mental health issues to school safety. His spokesman, Jay Carney, had said earlier that this is “a complex problem that will require a complex solution.” Gun control, Carney added, is far from the only answer.

In fact, the problem is not complex, and the solution is blindingly obvious.

People point to three sets of causes when talking about events such as the Newtown, Conn., shootings. First, the psychology of the killer; second, the environment of violence in our popular culture; and, third, easy access to guns. Any one of these might explain a single shooting. What we should be trying to understand is not one single event but why we have so many of them. The number of deaths by firearms in the United States was 32,000 last year. Around 11,000 were gun homicides.

To understand how staggeringly high this number is, compare it to the rate in other rich countries. England and Wales have about 50 gun homicides a year — 3 percent of our rate per 100,000 people. Many people believe that America is simply a more violent, individualistic society. But again, the data clarify. For most crimes — theft, burglary, robbery, assault — the United States is within the range of other advanced countries. The category in which the U.S. rate is magnitudes higher is gun homicides.

The U.S. gun homicide rate is 30 times that of France or Australia, according to the U.N. Office on Drugs and Crime, and 12 times higher than the average for other developed countries.

So what explains this difference? If psychology is the main cause, we should have 12 times as many psychologically disturbed people. But we don’t. The United States could do better, but we take mental disorders seriously and invest more in this area than do many peer countries.

Is America’s popular culture the cause? This is highly unlikely, as largely the same culture exists in other rich countries. Youth in England and Wales, for example, are exposed to virtually identical cultural influences as in the United States. Yet the rate of gun homicide there is a tiny fraction of ours. The Japanese are at the cutting edge of the world of video games. Yet their gun homicide rate is close to zero! Why? Britain has tough gun laws. Japan has perhaps the tightest regulation of guns in the industrialized world.

The data in social science are rarely this clear. They strongly suggest that we have so much more gun violence than other countries because we have far more permissive laws than others regarding the sale and possession of guns. With 5 percent of the world’s population, the United States has 50 percent of the guns.

There is clear evidence that tightening laws — even in highly individualistic countries with long traditions of gun ownership — can reduce gun violence. In Australia, after a 1996 ban on all automatic and semiautomatic weapons — a real ban, not like the one we enacted in 1994 with 600-plus exceptions — gun-related homicides dropped 59 percent over the next decade. The rate of suicide by firearm plummeted 65 percent. (Almost 20,000 Americans die each year using guns to commit suicide — a method that is much more successful than other forms of suicide.)

There will always be evil or disturbed people. And they might be influenced by popular culture. But how is government going to identify the darkest thoughts in people’s minds before they have taken any action? Certainly those who urge that government be modest in its reach would not want government to monitor thoughts, curb free expression, and ban the sale of information and entertainment.

Instead, why not have government do something much simpler and that has proven successful: limit access to guns. And not another toothless ban, riddled with exceptions, which the gun lobby would use to “prove” that such bans don’t reduce violence.

A few hours before the Newtown murders last week, a man entered a school in China’s Henan province. Obviously mentally disturbed, he tried to kill children. But the only weapon he was able to get was a knife. Although 23 children were injured, not one child died.

The problems that produced the Newtown massacre are not complex, nor are the solutions. We do not lack for answers.

What we lack in America today is courage.
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Mensaje por Charlie319 Lun Dic 24, 2012 2:17 pm

Interesantemnete no son los EEUU el pais con mayor incidencia de muerte por arma de fuego:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_firearm-related_death_rate

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Mensaje por Charlie319 Vie Ene 11, 2013 9:13 pm

El embajador de la Administracion de Obama ante la nacion blanca de los EEUU, El vicepresidente Joe "Malarkey" Biden ha estado toda esta semana reuniendose con as partes interesadas en las leyes de armas... Obviamente el viejito tiene ya sus ordenes por parte del ungido que desea convertir al resto de la Nacion en una copia de su muy querido Chicago... Donde la proporcion de baleados excede por mucho la de la Nacion.

Joe Biden meets games companies as gun control taskforce readies proposalsVice-president meets makers of Call of Duty and Medal of Honor after meeting advocates of gun control and gun rights

Matt Williams in New York
Friday 11 January 2013 17.59 EST

On the final day of talks at the White House, Biden met executives from the video games industry, reassuring them that he held "no judgment" and that the sector was not being "singled out". Representatives of the companies behind the popular Call of Duty and Medal of Honor franchises – Activision Blizzard and Electronic Arts – were summoned amid suggestions that violence on screens may be reflected in real life crime.

In comments accompanying the meeting, Biden raised the question of whether there had been a "coarsening" of American culture in general. "I do not know the answer to that question," he said.

In the aftermath of last month's school shooting in Newtown, Connecticut – in which 20 children and six adults were killed at Sandy Hook elementary – Biden was instructed by president Barack Obama to form a taskforce to look into measures that could be introduced to crack down on gun violence. He is due to present his findings to Obama early next week. "I'm shooting for Tuesday. I hope I get it done by then," Biden said on Friday.

It is understood that Biden's taskforce is considering a broad package of policies, which could include universal background checks on gun ownership, a clampdown on gun-show loopholes and a potential ban on high-capacity magazines and assault rifles.

Whatever the proposals turn out to be, it is likely they will be opposed by the National Rifle Association (NRA). Anticipating a renewed fight on the issue of ownership rights, the NRA hit out at Biden after meeting him on Thursday, accusing the vice-president of having "an agenda to attack the second amendment".

"We will not allow law-abiding gun owners to be blamed for the acts of criminals and madmen," said an NRA spokesman. On Friday, Biden said he believed his meeting with the NRA and other pro-gun organisations had been "very straightforward, productive".

The main gun control advocacy group, the Brady Campaign to Prevent Gun Violence, released its policy recommendations on Friday – two days after it met Biden. The proposals include a priority of closing a loophole that allows 40% of gun sales to take place without background checks, as well as limiting the availability of high-capacity ammunition magazines and military-style weapons "designed for mass killing".

Dan Gross, the Brady Campaign president, said: "We believe in the approach by the vice-president. There is no one answer to preventing gun violence. It is a complex problem that deserves a comprehensive set of solutions."


En ningun momento el Vicepresidente hace mencion sobre una de las principales razones por el incremento en muertes por armas de fuego...


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Si consideramos que en el 2011 el 10% de los asesinos convictos, el 31% de los narcotraficantes convictos, el 34% de lso blanqueadores de dinero, el 64% de los secuestradores, y el 28% de los delincuentes de drogas y alimentos sentenciados en ese calendarioeran no-ciudadanos, entonces podemos recomendarle al presi que empiece a deportar indocumentados y extranjeros que violen las condiciones de su visa. Eso tendra un efecto ensordecedor sobre la poblacion al ver que no estan jugando y que igual que botan a esos a sus paises, te pueden meter a la carcel con tus "idolos" que se convertiran en tus victimarios.
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Mensaje por Charlie319 Dom Ene 13, 2013 5:04 pm

Es intersante que los politicos que hoy dia buscan controlar el mercado de armas privadas son los mismos que se han negado a establecer un control migratorio efectivo. Veamos las cifras. Si asumimos las cifras de mas de cien millones de armas en los EEUU, y comparamos esto con la comparablemente misera cifra de 12.5 millones de extranjeros ilegales, se puede discernir que nos estan mintiendo en uno de los dos rubros.
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Mensaje por Charlie319 Lun Ene 14, 2013 4:06 pm

Bueno, hoy dia sabemos que el czar de todos los czares, Obama, tiene tres asuntos en puerta. El techo de la deuda, la amnistia para los ilegales y el asalto a la segunda enmienda... Puede que pase la primera, pero lo que son las otras dos, seran como "Cap & Trade"... el aabose de la influencia legislativa del Czar de Czares...
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Mensaje por Chemo Lun Ene 14, 2013 7:06 pm

Vi una noticia donde la NRA dice que ellos tienen los suficientes votos en el congreso para bloquear cualquier intento de restringir las armas ...o cualquier otra cosa que viole la segunda enmienda de la constitucion!!!!...Muyyy bien!!
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Mensaje por Charlie319 Mar Ene 15, 2013 9:14 am

Si. Pero la vluntad del Czar de czares, la Pelosi y Harry Reid hara de esto un Waterloo ya que las preferencias en todas las encuestas indican que hoy dia el proteger el derecho a poseer armas es ligeramente mas importante que el control de las mismas. Ademas, los ciudadanos que abogan por la 2da enmienda tienden a ser mas activos y a donar a sus representantes politicos, cosa que no es asi con los restriccionistas.
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Dicho y hecho. El Czar de czares ha delineado su linea en la arena y puesto en marcha un conflicot en el Congreso, y posiblemente fuera sobre varios temas incluyendo la 2da enmienda y su discrecion para emitir mandatos desde su escritorio circunventando asi al Congreso y el debate que alli se podria suscitar... El Presidente ppretende decirnos que pueden controlar mas de cien millones de armas cuando no pueden o quieren controlar 12 millones de extranjeros ilegales? En que nos estan mintiendo? Pueden hacerlo, pues que lo hagan con los ilegales y entonces hablamos...

Obama Unveils Proposals for Toughening Laws on Guns
By MICHAEL D. SHEAR and PETER BAKER
Published: January 16, 2013
WASHINGTON — President Obama called upon Congress on Wednesday to toughen America’s gun laws to confront mass shootings and everyday gun violence, betting that public opinion has shifted enough to support the broadest push for gun control in a generation.
At a White House event at noon, Mr. Obama announced plans to introduce legislation by next week that includes a ban on assault weapons, limits on high-capacity magazines, expanded background checks for gun purchases and new gun trafficking laws to crack down on the spread of weapons across the country.
He also promised to act without Congressional approval to increase the enforcement of existing gun laws and improve the flow of information among federal agencies to keep guns out of the hands of criminals and others who shouldn’t have them.
The announcement was the culmination of a monthlong process that began after the massacre of 20 children at an elementary school in Newtown, Conn. In the wake of the shootings, Mr. Obama pledged action, but it was not immediately clear how far he was willing to go in the face of intense political opposition.
Wednesday’s announcement reflected a decision by the White House to seize on public outrage to challenge the political power of the National Rifle Association and other forces that have successfully fought new gun laws for decades.
The president vowed to fight hard for the new gun laws, saying that the country’s leaders are compelled to act by the tragedies of gun deaths across the country.
“In the days ahead, I intend to use whatever weight this office holds to make them a reality,” he said. “If there’s even one life that can be saved, then we’ve got an obligation to try.”
Mr. Obama opened his call for new gun laws by quoting from some of the letters he received from children — several of whom were sitting in the audience at the White House — urging him to take action on gun violence.
“This is our first task as a society,” Mr. Obama said. “Keeping our children safe. This is how we will be judged. And their voices should compel us to change.”
The effort will be difficult and risky, as administration officials have acknowledged. Bruce Reed, the chief of staff for Vice President Joseph R. Biden Jr., told a group of liberal activists on Tuesday night that passing the president’s proposals in Congress will be even tougher than it was to pass an assault-weapons ban in 1994, according to participants at the briefing.
But the White House believes that the dynamic around guns may be shifting, and that the president has a window of opportunity that he cannot pass up.
In the meeting on Tuesday, Mr. Reed said the administration will focus on a single top priority: that guns be kept out of the wrong hands. Mr. Obama and Mr. Biden will take that message across the country, Mr. Reed said, even as the White House and its allies begin an online effort to put pressure on lawmakers.
The N.R.A. appears ready for the fight. On Tuesday, it posted a video mocking Mr. Obama for having Secret Service protection for his children while opposing armed guards at the nation’s schools. The video calls the president an “elitist hypocrite.”
The White House issued an angry response to the ad. “Most Americans agree that a president’s children should not be used as pawns in a political fight,” said Jay Carney, the White House press secretary. “But to go so far as to make the safety of the president’s children the subject of an attack ad is repugnant and cowardly.”

White House officials described the plan unveiled by Mr. Obama and Mr. Biden on Wednesday as a comprehensive effort that includes four major legislative proposals and 23 separate executive actions aimed at protecting “our children and our communities” by reducing the amount of gun violence in the country.
The officials said the president will call for a new and tougher ban on military style assault weapons and to limit the number of rounds that can be in a magazine to 10. That would eliminate the 30-round magazines that were used in Newtown as well as other mass shootings at Virginia Tech, a movie theater in Aurora, Colo., and a congresswoman’s public event in Tucson, Ariz.
The proposals also would require criminal background checks for all gun sales, closing the longstanding loophole that allows gun buyers to avoid such checks by purchasing their weapons at gun shows or from a private seller. The background database, in place since 1996, has stopped 1.5 million sales to felons, fugitives, convicted domestic abusers and others, but today nearly 40 percent of all gun sales are exempt from the system.
In a document and in a conference call with reporters, administration officials called the enhanced background check requirements the single most important thing that could be done to prevent gun violence and mass shootings. The only exceptions would be transfers between family members and certain “temporary transfers” for hunting and sporting purposes.
The administration also said it will strengthen the background check system by addressing legal barriers that keep some mental health records out of the database, improve incentives for states to share records and direct law enforcement agencies to crack down on those who evade the background check system.
Mr. Obama called on Congress to ban the possession or transfer of armor-piercing bullets. He urged lawmakers to crack down on “straw purchasers” who can pass background checks and then pass along guns to criminals or others forbidden from purchasing them.
The legislative effort will start in the Senate, which remains under Democratic control, unlike the House, which is led by Republicans. Senator Patrick J. Leahy, Democrat of Vermont and chairman of the Judiciary Committee, said he would hold the first hearings into the proposals on Jan. 30.
The president will also nominate a new director of the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms, the agency that regulates guns but has gone six years without a permanent leader confirmed by the Senate. Mr. Obama settled on Todd Jones, who has been acting director since September 2011.
In addition to the legislative efforts, White House officials stressed the actions that Mr. Obama is prepared to take on his own. In recent days, gun rights advocates have accused the president of a power grab, saying they feared he would exceed his executive authority in an attempt to take their guns away.
In fact, the list of executive actions is relatively modest, with most of the steps involving the president directing agencies to do a better job of sharing information.
Among the executive actions: to “launch a national safe and responsible gun ownership campaign”; to “review safety standards for gun locks and gun safes”; and to “direct the Attorney General to issue a report on the availability and most effective use of new gun safety technologies.”
The president also promises to “launch a national dialogue” on mental health led by Kathleen Sebelius, the secretary of health and human services, and Arne Duncan, the education secretary.
Mr. Obama also was overturning a 15-year-old ban on the Centers for Disease Control conducting research on gun violence. Officials said they reviewed the law and determined it only banned research intended to promote gun control, so they argued renewing fact-based research would not qualify.
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MSNBC en aprietos otra vez con un video maliciosamente editado, otra vez... La ultiam vez le costo el trabajo a una hijade una notoria ex-senadorapopular... Veremos si esta vez despiden a alguien.


MSNBC criticized for editing of gun hearing video
By DAVID BAUDER The Associated Press
Updated: 2013-01-31T03:20:52Z
January 30
By DAVID BAUDER
AP Television Writer
MSNBC invited viewers Wednesday to draw their own conclusions about whether the parent of a Connecticut school shooting victim was heckled at a legislative hearing but didn't address criticism that it aired a deceptively edited video of the event.

The NBC-owned cable news network found itself under attack for its editing practices less than a year after three employees of NBC or an NBC-owned station lost their jobs over the editing of a 911 call in the Trayvon Martin case.

On Monday, MSNBC's Martin Bashir reported on hearing testimony given that day by Neil Heslin, whose 6-year-old son, Jesse, was killed last month in the elementary school massacre in Newtown, Conn.
In the hushed hearing room, Heslin said, "I ask if there's anybody in this room that can give me one reason or challenge this question: why anybody in this room needs to have ... one of these assault-type weapons or military weapons or high-capacity clips?"
Heslin paused for five seconds and looked around him. No one else spoke.
"Not one person can answer that question," he said.
Then, someone in the audience shouted: "The Second Amendment shall not be infringed."
After the audience was admonished by a legislator not to speak, Heslin said, "Anyway, we're all entitled to our own opinion, and I respect their opinions and thoughts, but I wish they'd respect mine and give it a little bit of thought."

Video aired by Bashir Monday omitted the challenge, depicting Heslin saying: "Why anybody in this room needs to have ... one of these assault-type weapons or military weapons." At that point, without any pause, the audience member's interjection about the Second Amendment was heard. Heslin's comment about respecting opinions was omitted.
The camera then focused on Bashir, who said, "a father's grief interrupted by the cries of a heckler."
The passage as aired by MSNBC received criticism for being deceptive.
"This is not how a legitimate, professional news organization operates," said Brent Bozell, founder of the Media Research Center, a conservative media watchdog. "MSNBC's relentless anti-gun advocacy is bad enough, but this is downright dishonest."

MSNBC spokeswoman Lauren Skowronski did not immediately address questions about why MSNBC made the changes or whether criticism that it was misleading is valid.
Bashir was out sick on Wednesday, but substitute anchor Ari Melber said Bashir had made note of questions about whether Heslin had been heckled. MSNBC then played an unedited video of the passage in question.

"Martin and others have called that interruption heckling," Melber said. "Some disagree. He wanted you to hear that in full so you can draw your own conclusions."
Melber said nothing on the air about the fact that it initially aired an edited portion of the video.

Last spring, NBC's "Today" show and its Miami station WTVJ aired versions of a police emergency call made by Florida neighborhood watch volunteer George Zimmerman that emphasized his identification of Trayvon Martin as a black man, before Zimmerman shot Martin. Zimmerman had given his description of Martin after a dispatcher asked about his race but that portion of the tape wasn't initially aired. NBC later apologized.

Read more here: http://www.kansascity.com/2013/01/30/4040152/msnbc-criticized-for-editing-of.html#storylink=cpy
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Esta gente de la prensa es bien comica... Si no es por la foto del policia, uno pensaria que se trata de un guardia mas que se craqueo... Cuando en realidad e s miembro de esas demograficas que son propensas a resolver los problemas a tiros...

1 cop killed, 2 others shot amid manhunt for ex-LAPD officer

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Former Los Angeles police officer Christopher Jordan Dorner is seen in this image provided by the Irvine, Calif., Police Department via The Orange County Register. / AP Photo/Irvine Police Department via The Orange County

A former Los Angeles police officer was suspected early Thursday morning of shooting another Southern California officer to death overnight and wounding two others even as authorities hunted for him in connection with an earlier double-homicide, CBS News correspondent Bill Whitaker reports.

Christopher Jordan Dorner is considered a suspect in the two shootings in the Los Angeles suburbs, Whitaker reports.

Officer Bryan Galbreath told CBS Los Angeles station KNX-AM that the Riverside police officer who survived being shot was being operated on and was in critical condition.
Dorner has been the subject of a manhunt after police suspected him in gunning down a college basketball coach and her fiance Sunday night and leaving a rambling manifesto that threatened more violence.

Monica Quan and her fiance, Keith Lawrence, were found shot to death in their car at a parking structure, Irvine police Chief David L. Maggard said at a news conference Wednesday night.

Dorner, 33, implicated himself in the killings with a multi-page "manifesto" that he wrote that included threats against several people, including members of the LAPD, police said. They gave no further details on the document or its contents.
Autopsies showed that Quan and Lawrence were killed by multiple gunshot wounds in the parking structure at their condominium in Irvine, Orange County sheriff's spokesman Jim Amormino said earlier Wednesday.

Quan, 28, was an assistant women's basketball coach at Cal State Fullerton. Lawrence, 27, was a public safety officer at the University of Southern California.
The killings brought mourning and disbelief at three college campuses, Fullerton, USC, and Concordia University, where the two met when they were both students and basketball players.
Police do not know Dorner's whereabouts, and authorities were seeking the public's help in finding him.

"We have strong cause to believe Dorner is armed and dangerous," Maggard said, adding that the LAPD and FBI are assisting in the case.
Police said the U.S. Navy reservist may be driving a blue 2005 Nissan Titan pickup truck. His last known address was in La Palma in northern Orange County near Fullerton.

Dorner was with the department from 2005 until 2008, when he was fired for making false statements.
Quan's father, a former LAPD captain who became a lawyer in retirement, represented Dorner in front of the Board of Rights, a tribunal that ruled against Dorner at the time of his dismissal, LAPD Capt. William Hayes told The Associated Press Wednesday night.
Randal Quan retired in 2002. He later served as chief of police at Cal Poly Pomona before he started practicing law.
According to documents from a court of appeals hearing in October 2011, Dorner was fired from the LAPD after he made a complaint against his field training officer, Sgt. Teresa Evans. Dorner said that in the course of an arrest, Evans kicked suspect Christopher Gettler, a schizophrenic with severe dementia.
Following an investigation, Dorner was fired for making false statements
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Richard Gettler, the schizophrenic man's father, gave testimony that supported Dorner's claim. After his son was returned on July 28, 2007, Richard Gettler asked "if he had been in a fight because his face was puffy" and his son responded that he was kicked twice in the chest by a police officer.
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Mensaje por Charlie319 Vie Feb 08, 2013 10:40 am

La Segunda Enmienda es un mecanismo creado por los colonizadores de esta Nación para cerciorase de que no se repetiría la tiranía que instauró el Rey Jorge. En otras palabras, la Milicia armada no es solo para repeler invasores, sino para asegurar la libertad del Estado. Esta enmienda tiene su origen en la Carta de Derechos Inglesa de 1689 en la cual el derecho a portar armas tiene el contexto de ejercer el derecho del ciudadano protestante a no ser desarmado por el Rey sin el consentimiento del parlamento. Aun con el “enorme aparato de seguridad, el ciudadano es presa del sistema. Hoy día se rumora que el gobierno usa naves no-tripuladas (Drones) para espiar a sus ciudadanos. Es normal que muchos esperen que el próximo paso sea la detención de disidentes. Los fundadores de la Nación sabían que las cosas cambian y es por eso que existe un mecanismo para enmendar la Carta Magna de la Nación y el que ese mecanismo se ha usado en repetidas ocasiones.

De hecho, Fufi peca de charlatan al tratar de ligar el auge en la compra de rifles de asalto a la tragedia en Newtown, Conn. Cuando en realidad el auge no ocurre sino hasta que los lideres de la izquierda empiezan a trinar su canción de control de armas… El tratar de imputar un historial de violencia al pueblo Americano solo subraya la antipatía y resentimiento que el guru del baloncesto le guarda a los gringos.

Fufi hace gala de su ignorancia cuando dice: “Pueril es ese argumento cuando uno piensa que un arma semi automática puede matar a veinte personas en cuestión de un minuto lo que es inimaginable con un arma blanca”… Fufi, un arma semi-automatica solo carga un nuevo cartucho al cabo de lo cual hay que volver a presionar el gatillo para disparar. Parece que ha confundido esto con un arma completamente automática que no solo vuelve a cargar el cartucho, sino que lo dispara mientras este el dedo en el gatillo. De hecho, muchas armas hoy día tienen un modo de disparar en “automatico que dispara no mas de tres tiros en línea. La razón de esto, es precisamente la falta de eficiencia ya que grupos de tres son mas efectivos en una refriega. Aun asi, ese modo (mode) de operación no es permitido por la ley en armas de uso civil.

Acto seguido, el resentido del Pepino trata de imputar le a la nación un historial de violencia que ignora un historial de bondad y que lo mismo se podría de decir de los boricuas no solo por el presente sino por los “comevacas y tiznaos” Es esta demagogía de Fufi que busca tildar a los EEUU de nacino violenta y “ladina” que es tan transparente en su resentimiento e impotencia que lo lleva a usar el pulpito editorial para propagar sus ignorantes sandeces revestidas de florido hablar. De hecho, trata de vacunarse diciendo que no odia a los Americanso, cuando en su discurso se palpa el mismo.

All men are created equal… It is what they do after being created that sets them apart. It has set Fufi apart as the dogmatic hypocrite he is....


La segunda enmienda
Me refiero a la constitución de los Estados Unidos de América que, en su segunda enmienda, protege el derecho de sus ciudadanos a tener y portar armas de fuego.

Esa doctrina fue mantenida por el Tribunal Supremo de esa nación en casos del 2008 y el 2011 y ambos por una votación 5 a 4 de los jueces. ¿Qué les parece?

Pocos colectivos en la historia de la humanidad gozan del prestigio de la infalibilidad de ese grupo conocido en inglés como los 'Founding Fathers” de la nación norteamericana de los Adams, Washington y Jefferson. Comparable solamente con la fama del Papa Pío Noveno cuando impusiera a los católicos el dogma de la infalibilidad papal en el Concilio del Vaticano de 1864.

No creo que Jefferson, Madison y Franklin estuvieran tan trastornados mentalmente como el Papa Pío IX dado el que vivían los peligros de una nación en su etapa formativa pero no tienen excusa los 5 jueces que sostuvieron la vigencia de esa anacrónica segunda enmienda.

Porque en pleno siglo 21, en unos Estados Unidos dotado de un enorme aparato de seguridad en términos de un ejército, una fuerza policiaca y cantidad de recursos tecnológicos , es una estupidez procurar la 'protección individual' permitiendo a la ciudadanía la posesión y portación de armas sin regulaciones. Lejos de proteger al colectivo esta libertad de comprar hasta rifles semiautomáticos como quien compra un par de zapatos ha propiciado el que cualquier resentido o desquiciado perpetre una masacre como la de Newtown, Connecticut.

DEROGUEMOS ESE ANACRONISMO.

Pues NO contesta la NRA (National Rifle Association) y le hacen coro millones de 'americanos' por dos razones fundamentales: porque lo escribieron 'en piedra' los “founding fathers' y porque desconfían de su gobierno y su capacidad para cuidarlos.

Y la reacción más dramática e incomprensible a la matanza de 20 niños de 5 y 6 años en Newtown, Connecticut fue la multiplicación de ventas de armas de fuego en los Estados Unidos, ¡Bárbaros son!

Argumentar que se reduce el índice de criminalidad en una sociedad ARMANDO a la gente tiene que ser un disparate. Pero empiezan por decir que lo mismo se mata con un cuchillo o con un bate que con un arma de fuego.

Pueril es ese argumento cuando uno piensa que un arma semi automática puede matar a veinte personas en cuestión de un minuto lo que es inimaginable con un arma blanca. Otra simpleza es insistir en que la Constitución es sagrada y no debe enmendarse.

Para entender esas reacciones de los 'americanos' hay que conocer y reconocerle un historial de violencia que no finiquitó cuando lograron su independencia a fines del siglo 18. Nuestros 'asociados' se han pasado matando peleando y matando con ingleses, indios, mexicanos y hasta con ellos mismos en la más lamentable de las guerras; la que comenzara en 1861 entre Norte y Sur.

Curioso pero significativo es como los Washingtonians invadían primero y luego compraban Un personaje tan importante como el que fuera presidente General Ulysses Grant, calificó la guerra contra México en 1847 como una injusta y abusadora provocada con el propósito de servir los intereses expansionistas de los Estados Unidos.

Cuando en el siglo 19 se convirtieron en un Imperio venciendo a España llegaron peleando y matando hasta las Filipinas y claro tuvieron una practiquita en Puerto Rico. Cerraron el siglo con los 'Rough Riders' de Teddy Roosevelt peleando en la manigua cubana para después quedarse violando la soberanía de Cuba con su base en Guantánamo. Con algo siempre se q uedan. Por el bien de la humanidad, claro.

Ladinamente, después de pasar por las armas a los mexicanos , los gringos pagaron a México 18 millones de sus dólares para adquirir un enorme pedazo del suroeste que incluía todo el estado de Texas. Y los 'patios' de Arizona, Nevada, Nuevo México etc.

O sea, una nación formada en una cultura de tanta violencia recurre constantemente a la agresión militar; al derecho de la fuerza y siempre buscando justificar sus guerras e invasiones invocando un cínico 'por el bien de la democracia y sus libertades' o por el acomodaticio 'en defensa propia'.

Corea, Viet Nam, Irak y Afganistán han sido víctimas de esa política guerrera. Todo en nombre de la libertad y por su bien.

Ni hablar de sus intervenciones en la América del Sur y en la Central donde también han peleado y matado aunque de manera más insidiosa y solapadamente.

¿Odio a los americanos? Nada de eso amigas y amigos. El problema no son los 'americanos' culpables han sido esos gobiernos manipulados por el complejo militar e industrial que condenara el propio Presidente Eisenhower en su discurso de despedida. Cantidad de sus congresistas se ha opuesto a esa política imperialista abusadora de los Estados Unidos. No obstante, a la larga, se imponen los corporacionistas codiciosos como ahora los cabilderos de la NRA que pueden frenar cualquier intento de eliminar la segunda enmienda del US Consititution.

E hipocritamente alegan que lo hacen por los 'founding fathers' , esos 'visionarios' que, teniendo muchos de ellos cientos de esclavos, suscribieron el fundamento constitucional de “ ALL MEN ARE CREATED EQUAL”.

Bullshit!
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Mensaje por Septimo de Caballeria Sáb Feb 09, 2013 12:35 am

Fufi como siempre escribiendo mierda sobre USA. Ese viejo comunista no se cansa de demonizar a USA. Sin embargo sus admirados comunistoides del Caribe son un ejemplo digno de imitar, segun su filosofia.

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Mensaje por Septimo de Caballeria Sáb Feb 09, 2013 12:37 am

Ese viejo ya esta chocheando y sus columnas demuestran que la demencia senil esta acabando con el. Por lo menos en esta columna permitio que los foristas opinen, porque el cabron tambien cierra el foro por sus cojones pa que nadie lo contradiga.

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Mensaje por Charlie319 Sáb Feb 09, 2013 4:47 am

Bienvenido Septimo... Fufi esta ya caduco... Odia a los gringos porque por su culpa no nacio mas baturro.
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Mensaje por Charlie319 Miér Mar 20, 2013 1:04 pm

Por lo visto el viejolo de Harry Reid se arrugo y le hasacado el cuerpo a un duelo en el Senado. Esto es interesante pues se hace el anuncio mientras el Presi esta de viaje por el medio oriente... Obama evitara tener que comentar por varios dias. Pero si tomamos al Presidente en serio, no dijo el que iba a usar todo su capital politico para hacer esto realidad? Si ese es el caso, no acaba de bautizarlo Harry Reid como el chongo de salida (Lame Duck) que ya no tiene poder politico? Sera que la ley anti segunda enmienda no fue lo unico que sepulto Harry Reid?????



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<p>Esto del NY Times:
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Senator Is Angry Over Bill’s Exclusion of Assault Gun Ban



By JENNIFER STEINHAUER



WASHINGTON — Senator Dianne Feinstein, the California Democrat who 35 years ago discovered the bullet-riddled body of the gay activist Harvey Milk, reacted with anger on Tuesday that gun control legislation the Senate is to consider next month will not include the reinstatement of an assault weapons ban, a measure she had fought desperately to keep.

“How many assault weapons do you need circulating?” Ms. Feinstein said to reporters, noting that her bill, which had almost no chance of a hearing in the House, exempted many weapons. “To have these mass killings is such a blight on everything that America stands for.”

At a Senate hearing last week, Ms. Feinstein said that she still could not get out of her mind looking for the pulse of Mr. Milk, her colleague at the time on the San Francisco Board of Supervisors, and in the process “putting my fingers in a bullet hole.”

Senate Democrats plan to introduce after the Easter recess a bill widely supported by both parties that would increase the penalties for people who buy guns for those barred from having them, known as straw purchasing. But Senator Harry Reid of Nevada, the majority leader, told Ms. Feinstein on Monday that her assault weapons ban would not be included in the bill.

“I tried my best,” Ms. Feinstein said with obvious disappointment. “My best, I guess, wasn’t good enough.”

This month, the Senate Judiciary Committee passed four pieces of gun legislation: the straw purchasing measure; the assault weapons ban, which included limits on gun magazine sizes; a grant program for school security; and enhanced background checks for gun buyers.

The Senate bill is likely to include the school safety measure, and it may be expanded to include the enhanced background checks. But Mr. Reid is weighing the relative merits of bringing that measure to the floor, which for now has limited support from Republicans.

Mr. Reid said he would allow the assault weapons ban and the limits on magazine sizes to be offered as amendments, Ms. Feinstein said.

“I have said I want people to have the ability to vote on” various gun measures, Mr. Reid said on Tuesday. “My job is to find one of those that I can bring to the floor.” Mr. Reid said that while he felt sympathy for Ms. Feinstein, her bill had far fewer than the 60 votes needed to avoid a filibuster.

Mr. Reid will introduce the one measure that does have ample bipartisan support, the straw purchasing provision, which would make the already illegal practice a felony and increase penalties.

But a bill that is limited to stemming straw purchases would be all but certain to enrage groups that have been seeking broader legislation. They want measures that would make it more difficult for criminals and mentally ill people to obtain firearms and would limit the size of magazines.

If Mr. Reid considers only the straw purchasing measure, it is likely that senators who favor gun rights will offer a flood of pro-gun amendments, many of them likely to pass the full Senate, which could essentially turn a bill intended to strengthen gun regulations into one that enhances gun rights.

It is almost certain that Mr. Reid will at least add the provision to renew a grant program for school security, but even that is not a sure thing because of the country’s fiscal constraints.

Mr. Reid must also weigh whether to add a provision that would extend background checks to private sales of guns, a measure that would exempt family members and some others from those checks. While that idea has broad support among Democrats and some Republicans, many oppose it because it would require the same record-keeping that is done by gun stores in sales made within their walls.

As it stands, the assault weapons ban will probably still receive a vote as an amendment to the underlying package, as will a separate measure that would limit magazine sizes to 10 rounds.

The enemies on this are very powerful,” Ms. Feinstein said, referring to the National Rifle Association. “I’ve known that all my life.”








y esto de un blog de Fox:







Did Obama Cave on Gun Ban?






By Chris Stirewalt

Power Play

Published March 20, 2013

FoxNews.com



“I made my argument, but that's the way [Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid] feels. He just said, ‘I've decided.’”

-- Sen. Diane Feinstein, D-Calif., talking to reporters about Reid’s decision to scuttle her gun-ban legislation.

As President Obama prepared to set off on his Middle East tour, Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid delivered one heck of a bon voyage present, declaring dead the Obama-backed proposal for a ban on certain guns.


Reid said that he was bowing to political reality, saying that the legislation crafted by Sen. Diane Feinstein and passed by the Senate Judiciary Committee could barely garner 40 votes, even though Democrats count 55 in their caucus.

It would be a big slap to Obama if Reid is pulling the plug on the measure so soon and not giving the president time to try to rally support for the legislation in the Senate. Obama has made the plan a centerpiece of his second-term agenda and his team was hoping to at least force Republicans in the Senate and House to vote against the measure.

Obama spoke movingly of how December mass killings in Connecticut had driven him to make gun control, mostly overlooked in his campaigns and first term, a passionate cause in his second term. For Reid to spike that same bill without Obama’s say so would be serious effrontery.

Or did Reid consult with Obama and the president did not object?

To get the original ban on what gun control supporters call “assault weapons,” mostly regular rifles kitted out to look like military weapons, former President Bill Clinton had to push, prod, beg, plead, wheedle and pressure members of his party to get the deal done. Though it would prove costly in Midterm elections, the Clinton-era gun ban was a triumph of presidential arm-twisting.

That’s the kind of effort that liberals were hoping to see from Obama this time, and after his lofty rhetoric on gun control and expansive promises on the subject in the wake of the Newtown school shooting there was reason to think that the president might take on the task. It’s something we’ve never seen from Obama, who mostly avoids direct engagement on legislation, but he and the White House said the shootings had changed him.

Reid will instead bring forward two small bits of legislation with bipartisan support. One expands Justice Department grants for school safety and the other creates new criminal penalties for gun trafficking. Reid may also bring out a bill on expanding background checks for firearms purchases, but that is dangling now over gun rights advocates’ concerns regarding the creation of a federal firearms registry.

The majority leader also promises that proposals to ban those mock military weapons and large-capacity magazines will be allowed as amendments to the non-controversial legislation. But even that defeats Obama’s stated plan of pumping up the pressure on Republicans.

If, as Reid says, some 15 members of his caucus are opposed to the measures, not only will the bans never reach the House but it seems unlikely that Democrats will be able to make much political use against Republican incumbents of a vote on amendments that more than a quarter of the Democratic caucus opposed.

It’s understandable that Reid, knowing that the vulnerable incumbents on the blue team for 2014 hail from mostly red states where gun control is unpopular and being mostly in the good graces of the NRA himself, would not like to see the fight over the legislation drag on.

But what about Obama?

Gun-control activists are furious at Reid for dropping the legislation so swiftly and letting moderate Democrats off the hook. That’s not a big deal for him since those folks have never much liked him and he hails from a gun-rights state.

But again, what about Obama?

Either Reid ignored the president’s tearful pleas after the shooting, thereby declaring Obama a lame duck who can’t control his own party in Congress or Reid spiked the legislation in consultation with Obama.

The president said he would use “whatever power [his] office holds” in the effort. But if Obama did not mount a goal-line stand for the legislation and apply his powers of persuasion to the cause he was either denied the opportunity by a rebellious Senate majority leader or opted to give up himself.

Neither outcome bodes well for his political clout heading into a long spring and summer of battles with House Republicans.


Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2013/03/20/did-obama-cave-on-gun-ban/#ixzz2O6Fqgb7i




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Esta semana se abrieron a la luz publica los expedientes de la investigacion del tiroteo de Arizona en el que la Gabby Giffords fue baleada... por el liberal drogo y esquizofrenico de Jared Lougher... El que nadie haya reportado a este individuo a las autoridades (como el peligor potencial que era) es verdaderamente inconcebible.


March 27, 2013

Before Attack, Parents of Gunman Tried to Address Son’s Strange Behavior

<H6 class=byline>By SARAH GARRECHT GASSEN and TIMOTHY WILLIAMS




TUCSON — The parents of Jared L. Loughner, the man who killed six people and wounded 13 others during a meet-and-greet event hosted by former Representative Gabrielle Giffords in 2011, told the authorities after the mass shooting that they had become so concerned about their son’s strange behavior in the previous months that they had taken away his shotgun, insisted he get psychological counseling and had even begun to disable his car so that he could not go out at night, according to thousands of pages of documents related to the case released Wednesday.

The records, about 2,700 pages of police reports, witness statements and other material, detail the events leading up to the attack, from Mr. Loughner’s purchase of ammunition at a Walmart on the morning of the shooting to the response of Pima County Sheriff’s deputies to a bloody Safeway parking lot, where Mr. Loughner had been subdued by bystanders while reloading his 9-millimeter Glock semiautomatic.

The documents, released by the Pima County Sheriff’s Department after Freedom of Information requests from news organizations, reveal the depth of the worries that Mr. Loughner’s parents had about their son’s rapidly deteriorating psychological stability.

The parents, Amy and Randy Loughner, have not spoken publicly about the attack, for which Mr. Loughner, 24, was sentenced in November 2012 to seven consecutive life terms plus 140 years in prison. Mr. Loughner, who pleaded guilty to 19 federal charges, had been given a diagnosis of schizophrenia after his arrest, but was deemed competent to agree to the plea deal. The arrangement makes him ineligible for parole or to appeal his conviction.

Two days after the January 2011 shooting, Randy Loughner told a group of F.B.I. and sheriff’s investigators that he had grown so worried about his son’s odd behavior in the months since Jared had been forced to withdraw from a community college because of campus officials’ fears about the safety of the staff and students that he had begun to keep his son in at night by rendering his Chevrolet Nova inoperable.

But, Randy Loughner told the investigators, he had not done so before the morning of the attack, when his son drove away at 6 a.m. to secretly buy ammunition for the Glock he purchased at a local sporting goods store about six weeks before.

When his son returned home a couple of hours later, Randy Loughner said, he questioned him about what he was carrying in his backpack, which prompted Jared Loughner to turn and run, eventually fleeing into the desert.

About two hours later, he had apparently used some of that ammunition, emptying a 33-round magazine in about 19 seconds, and killing, among others, a federal judge and a 9-year-old girl and seriously wounding Ms. Giffords, who was shot in the head at close range.

In her interviews with law enforcement officials, Amy Loughner described her son as a “loner” who talked to himself. She said she had insisted that he be tested for drugs because she believed he was using methamphetamine despite his denials. She told Pima County sheriff’s detectives that she and her husband had taken a shotgun away from their son in the months before the shooting and told him he needed to get psychological help.

Sometimes you’d hear him in his room, like, having conversations,” Ms. Loughner said about her son during an interview with investigators. “And sometimes he would look like he was having a conversation with someone right there. Be talking to someone. I don’t know how to explain it. I don’t.”

Ms. Loughner said that she told Jared that “he needed to go see someone about it” but that he never did. She told deputies, “His behavior is not normal.”

Ms. Loughner said her son had denied using methamphetamine, but had acknowledged smoking marijuana and trying cocaine.

A police report by one of the arresting deputies, whose full name was not disclosed in the documents, said that when he arrived in the Tucson supermarket parking lot where the January 2011 shooting had occurred moments before, two or three people were holding Mr. Loughner down on the ground. The officer said that after handcuffing Mr. Loughner he had found two fully loaded Glock ammunition magazines in Mr. Loughner’s pockets, along with a folding knife with a four-inch blade. The deputy said Mr. Loughner repeatedly said that he pleaded “the Fifth,” even though the deputy said he had not asked him any questions. The deputy said he had removed a pair of disposable earplugs that Mr. Loughner had been wearing during the shooting.

Once in custody, Mr. Loughner told F.B.I. agents that “I’d like to sign something, a paper,” according to a police report. When told he did not need to sign anything, he responded, “All righty,” the report said.

The documents chronicle several particularly chilling moments from the morning of the shooting. The first occurred when Mr. Loughner was stopped by a state Game and Fish officer for running a red light shortly after 7:30 a.m. According to the officer, when Mr. Loughner learned the officer was not going to give him a ticket, he began to cry. He then thanked the officer and shook his hand, explaining, “I’ve just had a rough time,” the officer told investigators.

Soon after, a clerk at a convenience store told an F.B.I. agent, Mr. Loughner came in and asked for them to call him a cab. As Mr. Loughner nervously waited, the clerk told the investigator, Mr. Loughner looked at a clock in the store and said aloud: “9:25. I still got time.” The cab eventually arrived, and within 45 minutes, Mr. Loughner had gunned down 19 people, killing six of them.


Sarah Garrecht Gassen reported from Tucson, and Timothy Williams from New York.


This article has been revised to reflect the following correction:

Correction: March 27, 2013

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Because of an editing error, a headline with an earlier version of this article stated incorrectly that the mother of the gunman in the Tucson shooting, Jared L. Loughner, wanted him tested for drugs after the shooting. She told the authorities that she had wanted her son drug-tested before the attacks.
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Mensaje por Charlie319 Dom Sep 22, 2013 11:40 am

Lo que los Democratas no quieren que note el electorado...

In 1863 a Democrat shot and killed Abraham Lincoln, President of the United States.
In 1881 a left wing radical Democrat shot James Garfield, President of the United States, who later died from the wound.
In 1963 a radical left wing socialist shot and killed John F. Kennedy, President of the Unite...d States.
In 1975 a left wing radical Democrat fired shots at Gerald Ford, President of the United States.
In 1981 a registered Democrat shot and wounded Ronald Reagan, President of the United States.
In 1984 James Hubert, a disgruntled Democrat, shot and killed 22 people in a McDonalds restaurant.
In 1986 Patrick Sherrill, a disgruntled Democrat, shot and killed 15 people in an Oklahoma post office.
In 1990 James Pough, a disgruntled Democrat, shot and killed 10 people at a GMAC office.
In 1991 George Hennard, a disgruntled Democrat, shot and killed 23 people in a Luby's cafeteria.
In 1995 James Daniel Simpson, a disgruntled Democrat, shot and killed 5 coworkers in a Texas laboratory.
In 1999 Larry Asbrook, a disgruntled Democrat, shot and killed 8 people at a church service.
In 2001 a left wing radical Democrat fired shots at the White House in a failed attempt to kill George W. Bush, President of the US.
In 2003 Douglas Williams, a disgruntled Democrat, shot and killed 7 people at a Lockheed Martin plant.
In 2007 a registered Democrat named Seung - Hui Cho, shot and killed 32 people in Virginia Tech.
In 2010 a mentally ill registered Democrat named Jared Lee Loughner, shot Rep. Gabrielle Giffords and killed 6 others.
In 2011 a registered Democrat named James Holmes, went into a movie theater and shot and killed 12 people.
In 2012 Andrew Engeldinger, a disgruntled Democrat, shot and killed 7 people in Minneapolis.
In 2013 a registered Democrat named Adam Lanza, shot and killed 26 people in a school.

Obviamente el problema no son las armas... Son los Democratas.
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